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Цитата: Nurdin от 10 Декабря, 2016, 01:34:00Можешь скинуть свой лог с урсока какого нибудь или гарма я скажу все твои ошибки, а по поводу опенера: смысла кидать глефу до ХБ нет. Вообще юзать зелье длительной силы это полный зашквар, оно в миллиард раз слабее чем древней войны.Вообще вот мой пост на ммо-чемпионе, кому не лень переведите - там мой опенер и советы на каждый файт для максимизации дпса. (показать/скрыть)Ok man. there we go > u used 12 TGs outside momentum on ur best ursoc fight. this is a huge mistake, U should almost never do that.Overall momentum uptime is pretty low, you should try to improve that. Guys who snapshot chaos blades usually open like taht > CB>META> FR> FOTI > ANNI>ANNI>FR(BLUR RIGHT AFTER)> ANNI ANNI ANNI ANNI ( can do 1 more anni if u have bti or any other ahste proc)> FR>ANNI ANNI ANNI ANNI... should look like that. u might probably have problems with that, since u don't have ring, so, i guess just stick to golden rules >1. Never use TG/FOTI outside momentum2. On ursoc try to have almost 2 charges of TG b4 add and momentum to use them on adds. Important to use ur 1st gcd on boss on FOTI so u will have it off cd on godo timing to cleave the add. Same with eye beam always use it on add asap. Also try to sync ur 2nd Chaos blades with FOTI and TGs on add ( remember having momentum for this). Also during add try to use fel rush to dmg both ursoc and image.I have no idea why u used Blade dance on that fight aswell. The only reason i'd use it is when ursoc charges and i wanna hit the add w/o ruining Eye of command buff.This are my advices for ursoc as a dh who get top 10 every week on mythic.on nythendra best thing to do is not to dps whore. Keep 8 yd away from others and u will get them deeps by aoeing ppl out. Never use FoTI or eye beam if u are at low stacks and there will be MC in near future. But if u get rot or anything that bring u >10 i usually use my FOTI on nythendra.other fights are very situational i guess. on spider use FoTi at start and save eye beam on spiders ( very important to be there asap and use it first, cuz fucking dks and mages gonna fuck u up). And u will have Foti + eye beam ready for second spiders. Remember ur not the only dps whore in the raid so u must always be first.U can also stand in web for a little bit and pretend ur DCed so u spawn lots of spiders and can get even more aoe dmg.and also u'd save foti + beam if u go to p3 cuz lots of spiders will spawn for ur e=peen meter=))on ilginoth when big add spawn u will have ur FOTI and eye beam ready and corruption tents spawn. U don't blow ur aoe right away cuz there will be eye beam tentacles and if good rng u will have some good numbers by aoeing them all For dragons i recommend not to ever use ur aoe abilities on ST thats the main thing. Try to use tgs on dragons swap so they both get hit. THats pretty much it. Hope u got the idea>1. improve momentum uptime ( clever usage of FRs and VRs and blur)2. Never cast hard hittin shit if u can't have momentum (TG/FOTI). and i assume w/o ring u won't have much chaos strikes to cast outside of momentum.3. Delay using ur fr and vr charges before 2nd meta and CBs coming off cd, so u will have momentum during them4. U should always hit the boss in the back so u don't get them parries and stuff. Hurts ur dps ALOTas for stat priority u should go max crit till like 55 %. I can't imagine how shit fury regen is w/o ring. And with low crit it's even worse.То есть, из-за одного тика глефы у меня весь опенер поплыл? ))0 При том, что в твоей ротации их нет вообще?У меня нет челиков с которыми можно юзать древней войны. А жрать их просто, чтоб на вайпе иметь на 10к дпс больше - зашквар. Челик, который жахнул тоже был с дешевым препотом. Тут не в этом дело
Можешь скинуть свой лог с урсока какого нибудь или гарма я скажу все твои ошибки, а по поводу опенера: смысла кидать глефу до ХБ нет. Вообще юзать зелье длительной силы это полный зашквар, оно в миллиард раз слабее чем древней войны.Вообще вот мой пост на ммо-чемпионе, кому не лень переведите - там мой опенер и советы на каждый файт для максимизации дпса. (показать/скрыть)Ok man. there we go > u used 12 TGs outside momentum on ur best ursoc fight. this is a huge mistake, U should almost never do that.Overall momentum uptime is pretty low, you should try to improve that. Guys who snapshot chaos blades usually open like taht > CB>META> FR> FOTI > ANNI>ANNI>FR(BLUR RIGHT AFTER)> ANNI ANNI ANNI ANNI ( can do 1 more anni if u have bti or any other ahste proc)> FR>ANNI ANNI ANNI ANNI... should look like that. u might probably have problems with that, since u don't have ring, so, i guess just stick to golden rules >1. Never use TG/FOTI outside momentum2. On ursoc try to have almost 2 charges of TG b4 add and momentum to use them on adds. Important to use ur 1st gcd on boss on FOTI so u will have it off cd on godo timing to cleave the add. Same with eye beam always use it on add asap. Also try to sync ur 2nd Chaos blades with FOTI and TGs on add ( remember having momentum for this). Also during add try to use fel rush to dmg both ursoc and image.I have no idea why u used Blade dance on that fight aswell. The only reason i'd use it is when ursoc charges and i wanna hit the add w/o ruining Eye of command buff.This are my advices for ursoc as a dh who get top 10 every week on mythic.on nythendra best thing to do is not to dps whore. Keep 8 yd away from others and u will get them deeps by aoeing ppl out. Never use FoTI or eye beam if u are at low stacks and there will be MC in near future. But if u get rot or anything that bring u >10 i usually use my FOTI on nythendra.other fights are very situational i guess. on spider use FoTi at start and save eye beam on spiders ( very important to be there asap and use it first, cuz fucking dks and mages gonna fuck u up). And u will have Foti + eye beam ready for second spiders. Remember ur not the only dps whore in the raid so u must always be first.U can also stand in web for a little bit and pretend ur DCed so u spawn lots of spiders and can get even more aoe dmg.and also u'd save foti + beam if u go to p3 cuz lots of spiders will spawn for ur e=peen meter=))on ilginoth when big add spawn u will have ur FOTI and eye beam ready and corruption tents spawn. U don't blow ur aoe right away cuz there will be eye beam tentacles and if good rng u will have some good numbers by aoeing them all For dragons i recommend not to ever use ur aoe abilities on ST thats the main thing. Try to use tgs on dragons swap so they both get hit. THats pretty much it. Hope u got the idea>1. improve momentum uptime ( clever usage of FRs and VRs and blur)2. Never cast hard hittin shit if u can't have momentum (TG/FOTI). and i assume w/o ring u won't have much chaos strikes to cast outside of momentum.3. Delay using ur fr and vr charges before 2nd meta and CBs coming off cd, so u will have momentum during them4. U should always hit the boss in the back so u don't get them parries and stuff. Hurts ur dps ALOTas for stat priority u should go max crit till like 55 %. I can't imagine how shit fury regen is w/o ring. And with low crit it's even worse.
Цитата: Egoiste от 10 Декабря, 2016, 02:56:37Цитата: Nurdin от 10 Декабря, 2016, 01:34:00Можешь скинуть свой лог с урсока какого нибудь или гарма я скажу все твои ошибки, а по поводу опенера: смысла кидать глефу до ХБ нет. Вообще юзать зелье длительной силы это полный зашквар, оно в миллиард раз слабее чем древней войны.Вообще вот мой пост на ммо-чемпионе, кому не лень переведите - там мой опенер и советы на каждый файт для максимизации дпса. (показать/скрыть)Ok man. there we go > u used 12 TGs outside momentum on ur best ursoc fight. this is a huge mistake, U should almost never do that.Overall momentum uptime is pretty low, you should try to improve that. Guys who snapshot chaos blades usually open like taht > CB>META> FR> FOTI > ANNI>ANNI>FR(BLUR RIGHT AFTER)> ANNI ANNI ANNI ANNI ( can do 1 more anni if u have bti or any other ahste proc)> FR>ANNI ANNI ANNI ANNI... should look like that. u might probably have problems with that, since u don't have ring, so, i guess just stick to golden rules >1. Never use TG/FOTI outside momentum2. On ursoc try to have almost 2 charges of TG b4 add and momentum to use them on adds. Important to use ur 1st gcd on boss on FOTI so u will have it off cd on godo timing to cleave the add. Same with eye beam always use it on add asap. Also try to sync ur 2nd Chaos blades with FOTI and TGs on add ( remember having momentum for this). Also during add try to use fel rush to dmg both ursoc and image.I have no idea why u used Blade dance on that fight aswell. The only reason i'd use it is when ursoc charges and i wanna hit the add w/o ruining Eye of command buff.This are my advices for ursoc as a dh who get top 10 every week on mythic.on nythendra best thing to do is not to dps whore. Keep 8 yd away from others and u will get them deeps by aoeing ppl out. Never use FoTI or eye beam if u are at low stacks and there will be MC in near future. But if u get rot or anything that bring u >10 i usually use my FOTI on nythendra.other fights are very situational i guess. on spider use FoTi at start and save eye beam on spiders ( very important to be there asap and use it first, cuz fucking dks and mages gonna fuck u up). And u will have Foti + eye beam ready for second spiders. Remember ur not the only dps whore in the raid so u must always be first.U can also stand in web for a little bit and pretend ur DCed so u spawn lots of spiders and can get even more aoe dmg.and also u'd save foti + beam if u go to p3 cuz lots of spiders will spawn for ur e=peen meter=))on ilginoth when big add spawn u will have ur FOTI and eye beam ready and corruption tents spawn. U don't blow ur aoe right away cuz there will be eye beam tentacles and if good rng u will have some good numbers by aoeing them all For dragons i recommend not to ever use ur aoe abilities on ST thats the main thing. Try to use tgs on dragons swap so they both get hit. THats pretty much it. Hope u got the idea>1. improve momentum uptime ( clever usage of FRs and VRs and blur)2. Never cast hard hittin shit if u can't have momentum (TG/FOTI). and i assume w/o ring u won't have much chaos strikes to cast outside of momentum.3. Delay using ur fr and vr charges before 2nd meta and CBs coming off cd, so u will have momentum during them4. U should always hit the boss in the back so u don't get them parries and stuff. Hurts ur dps ALOTas for stat priority u should go max crit till like 55 %. I can't imagine how shit fury regen is w/o ring. And with low crit it's even worse.То есть, из-за одного тика глефы у меня весь опенер поплыл? ))0 При том, что в твоей ротации их нет вообще?У меня нет челиков с которыми можно юзать древней войны. А жрать их просто, чтоб на вайпе иметь на 10к дпс больше - зашквар. Челик, который жахнул тоже был с дешевым препотом. Тут не в этом делоНу тут дело в отношении. Я юзаю каждый пул дорогой пот. Чтоб ты понимал глефа снепшотится - урон от кровопускания зависит от урона который нанесла сама глефа - т.е. ты теряешь ± 20% ( в зависимости от мастери) урона от глефы > возьмем период в 12 секунд ( действия клинков хаоса). Ты потратил 1 гкд из скажем 10 на 20% менее эффективно, из таких мелочей и складывается бурст. Из таких микромоментов и складывается результат - т.е. ты либо в топ 100 на урсоке, либо в топ 10. ( это помимо факторов на которые ты повлиять не можешь. И таких за каждый бой бывает немало,
У меня чтоб ты понимал около 5-6 100 %, я конечно, не хвастаюсь, но у тебя такое вряд ли будет, если ты не знал это топ1 результат на текущий момент. У меня было бы и больше, но гильда слабая. Что есть то есть.
чет сомнительное удовольствие юзать в ст с учетом что в найтхолде будет 3 релика на критикал хаос ну и мастери поболее, сейчас на птре 22.82%в мете взмах бьёт поболее аннилиляции опять же если мало искусностипы.сы замер без бафов без проков и там и там крит на хс и на танец(все 4 атаки танца)
крит глефы + бладлет не могут перекрыть дамаг от 1ного крита аннигиляции
Цитата: Nurdin от 10 Декабря, 2016, 03:17:37Цитата: Egoiste от 10 Декабря, 2016, 02:56:37Цитата: Nurdin от 10 Декабря, 2016, 01:34:00Можешь скинуть свой лог с урсока какого нибудь или гарма я скажу все твои ошибки, а по поводу опенера: смысла кидать глефу до ХБ нет. Вообще юзать зелье длительной силы это полный зашквар, оно в миллиард раз слабее чем древней войны.Вообще вот мой пост на ммо-чемпионе, кому не лень переведите - там мой опенер и советы на каждый файт для максимизации дпса. (показать/скрыть)Ok man. there we go > u used 12 TGs outside momentum on ur best ursoc fight. this is a huge mistake, U should almost never do that.Overall momentum uptime is pretty low, you should try to improve that. Guys who snapshot chaos blades usually open like taht > CB>META> FR> FOTI > ANNI>ANNI>FR(BLUR RIGHT AFTER)> ANNI ANNI ANNI ANNI ( can do 1 more anni if u have bti or any other ahste proc)> FR>ANNI ANNI ANNI ANNI... should look like that. u might probably have problems with that, since u don't have ring, so, i guess just stick to golden rules >1. Never use TG/FOTI outside momentum2. On ursoc try to have almost 2 charges of TG b4 add and momentum to use them on adds. Important to use ur 1st gcd on boss on FOTI so u will have it off cd on godo timing to cleave the add. Same with eye beam always use it on add asap. Also try to sync ur 2nd Chaos blades with FOTI and TGs on add ( remember having momentum for this). Also during add try to use fel rush to dmg both ursoc and image.I have no idea why u used Blade dance on that fight aswell. The only reason i'd use it is when ursoc charges and i wanna hit the add w/o ruining Eye of command buff.This are my advices for ursoc as a dh who get top 10 every week on mythic.on nythendra best thing to do is not to dps whore. Keep 8 yd away from others and u will get them deeps by aoeing ppl out. Never use FoTI or eye beam if u are at low stacks and there will be MC in near future. But if u get rot or anything that bring u >10 i usually use my FOTI on nythendra.other fights are very situational i guess. on spider use FoTi at start and save eye beam on spiders ( very important to be there asap and use it first, cuz fucking dks and mages gonna fuck u up). And u will have Foti + eye beam ready for second spiders. Remember ur not the only dps whore in the raid so u must always be first.U can also stand in web for a little bit and pretend ur DCed so u spawn lots of spiders and can get even more aoe dmg.and also u'd save foti + beam if u go to p3 cuz lots of spiders will spawn for ur e=peen meter=))on ilginoth when big add spawn u will have ur FOTI and eye beam ready and corruption tents spawn. U don't blow ur aoe right away cuz there will be eye beam tentacles and if good rng u will have some good numbers by aoeing them all For dragons i recommend not to ever use ur aoe abilities on ST thats the main thing. Try to use tgs on dragons swap so they both get hit. THats pretty much it. Hope u got the idea>1. improve momentum uptime ( clever usage of FRs and VRs and blur)2. Never cast hard hittin shit if u can't have momentum (TG/FOTI). and i assume w/o ring u won't have much chaos strikes to cast outside of momentum.3. Delay using ur fr and vr charges before 2nd meta and CBs coming off cd, so u will have momentum during them4. U should always hit the boss in the back so u don't get them parries and stuff. Hurts ur dps ALOTas for stat priority u should go max crit till like 55 %. I can't imagine how shit fury regen is w/o ring. And with low crit it's even worse.То есть, из-за одного тика глефы у меня весь опенер поплыл? ))0 При том, что в твоей ротации их нет вообще?У меня нет челиков с которыми можно юзать древней войны. А жрать их просто, чтоб на вайпе иметь на 10к дпс больше - зашквар. Челик, который жахнул тоже был с дешевым препотом. Тут не в этом делоНу тут дело в отношении. Я юзаю каждый пул дорогой пот. Чтоб ты понимал глефа снепшотится - урон от кровопускания зависит от урона который нанесла сама глефа - т.е. ты теряешь ± 20% ( в зависимости от мастери) урона от глефы > возьмем период в 12 секунд ( действия клинков хаоса). Ты потратил 1 гкд из скажем 10 на 20% менее эффективно, из таких мелочей и складывается бурст. Из таких микромоментов и складывается результат - т.е. ты либо в топ 100 на урсоке, либо в топ 10. ( это помимо факторов на которые ты повлиять не можешь. И таких за каждый бой бывает немало,Ты же 68 ой =(((Вот вы распинаетесь про глефы до или после ХБ, но не которые вообще не юзают их на пуле ( причем логично, так как крит глефы + бладлет не могут перекрыть дамаг от 1ного крита аннигиляции), вот же не задача. А остальные ваши советы все есть в гайде, ничего нового ваш врыв в дх ветку не принес. gl hf/
Вот например мой скромненький лог, с дешевеньким зельем, так что и с ним есть какие-то шансы, не упасть на дно скадыhttps://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JrDckNPftR2W1v4A#fight=7&type=damage-done&source=29Даешь экономию в рейдах!
Цитата: win100n от 10 Декабря, 2016, 10:58:25крит глефы + бладлет не могут перекрыть дамаг от 1ного крита аннигиляцииhttp://www.wowhead.com/spell=185123/throw-glaive - 490% weapon damage + 1.5*490% wd = 1225vshttp://www.wowhead.com/spell=201428/annihilation - 929% WDАннигиляция становится такой же по урону при 31,8% мастери, разве нет?
Ты забываешь о разнице в стоимости заклинаний. Хс 40 а танец с талантом 15